اجعلنا صفحة البداية RSS خدمة Add to favorite Facebook Twitter

Advanced

Veteran Israeli soldiers speak out about service
Published Friday 22/06/2012 (updated) 24/06/2012 14:35
Israeli soldiers escort settlers through the West Bank city of Hebron.
(MaanImages/Eleonora Vio, File)
BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- A group of veteran Israeli soldiers who served in the West Bank and Gaza Strip have spoken out on camera about their experiences in the army.

The Israeli organization Breaking the Silence has collected testimonies from 800 veteran Israeli soldiers who served in the West Bank and Gaza. In a new campaign, it has released video testimonies of six former soldiers describing their experiences.

Amit served in Ramallah, Hebron and the northern West Bank during the second intifada. He describes an incident in which an Israeli commander swung his rifle at the jaw of a Palestinian during a tense situation at a roadblock near Jerusalem.

"Beyond the fact that the guy fell to the ground, bleeding and screaming in pain, and of course all of the other Palestinians only grew angrier, it took us a long time to gain control of the mess and, of course, we had to more aggressive, cocking our weapons and such."

He says witnessing first hand what goes on the West Bank shattered his worldview.

"Going from a place where I was sure that we are the scapegoat, the miserable ones being killed, I saw a reality that, most of the time, was the opposite.

"I saw me running after people, I saw myself pointing a gun at a 3-year-old girl, I saw me and my friends cuffing people, checking people, detaining people, questioning people, arresting people. In most cases, it was for nothing."



Yehuda Shaul, one of the founders of Breaking the Silence, says he did everything he was required to as a fighter -- and later a commander -- in the Israeli army.

"If the mission right now is to keep the kids out of school, then the kids won't go to school. If the mission is to disperse a funeral because of the curfew, then the family ... will not finish burying their dead relative. It will leave the corpse there and leave. And if they don't do it, they'll get stun grenades and gas."

"Can you even imagine a situation of an Israeli family at a funeral and the police comes to disperse them?"

Yehuda says he talks about his service because "if we don't talk ... none of us will know what goes on there."

He says the most memorable part of his service was watching Palestinians getting beaten up by settlers in Hebron, while under orders not to touch them.

Another soldier, Sagi, who also served in Hebron, recalls a procession of Israeli children burning an effigy of a member of the anti-settlement organization Peace Now.

"I understood that all of the things that I thought -- that there are boundaries, that at the end of the day we're on the same side -- that, from my point of view, is no longer the case. And from their point of view I'm not legitimate, and if they knew my political opinions they could replace the doll with me."

Sagi says he finds people prefer not to listen to his experiences of the army, and those that do listen think that his experience was isolated, and perhaps he was "a soldier who transgressed" and should be put on trial.

"Maybe I really should be put on trial - but if I need to be tried, as one of the humane soldiers who served in the territories, I guess we should try all Israeli soldiers," he says.

'We're ruining people's lives on a daily basis'

Yael served as a scout in Gaza, monitoring a live video feed of the Gaza border.

"We're kneaded and molded to see something suspicious in everything we see. I look into the cameras and I don't see a donkey, a dog or a cart. I see a vehicle that can get a charge across, a vehicle that can get weapons across ... It's always suspicious."

She explained: "There's no routine there, it's not someone throwing his garbage out, it's an explosive."

She recalls seeing an elderly shepherd, "a grandpa, a really old man with his sheep," too close to the fence. She reported him to the combat engineering force. "I was conditioned to see shepherds and sheep herds as intelligence scouts."

Israeli forces fired in the air, startling the sheep, but the shepherd remained. Soldiers then shot the ground near the sheep "and they were startled again but the shepherd was determined to stay there. He didn't want to leave, he wanted to stay there."

The soldiers shot a sheep.

"(The shepherd) went to the sheep and tried to pick it up and it was full of blood and he tried to pick it up and take it back and they continued to shoot."

"The sheep didn't die but he had to leave it there and run away, they would've shot him and the rest of the sheep. He ran back and the sheep stayed there until it died."

"Seeing it from the other side, it was like a video game, so detached from reality. So what if we shoot animals.

"(For the Palestinians) it's the exact opposite ... people just come and shoot your animals, your livelihood, you. And it's fine. It's like it's fine."

She added: "We're ruining people's lives on a daily basis."

Yael said she was testifying because she thought "people should know what's happening there."

"It's not the Israeli Defense Force defending us against horrible terrorists who want to destroy the Jewish people. They are people who live here and who have lived here when we weren't here and they're trying to live and we're the stronger power. And we use that power full on, without any problem. I think people should know that."



In other testimonies, a soldier describes an incident in which a company of soldiers, including the battalion commander, assaulted a detained Palestinian.

A soldier in an elite unit recalls an officer being ridiculed for not following an order to shoot an elderly, sick Palestinian who had gone back into his home to get his medication during an arrest raid.

The full testimonies can be viewed at www.discovertheterritories.com
Print Send to friend
1 ) shirley / australia
22/06/2012 12:41
and there it is crimes against humanity on a daily basis and as always a tiny minority are told they have got it wrong

2 ) Robert / US
22/06/2012 12:52
Extremely Disturbing

3 ) Sarah / Holland
22/06/2012 13:39
Back in February 2002, a Soldier testimony (H.L., Staff Sgt. (Res.), Infantry Brigade): "The spirit of things was to make life unbearable for the Palestinians," "Stop them, inspect them a thousand and one times so that they wont want to drive that route. It seemed stupid to me. You harm people's livelihood, harm people's life, detain children on the way to school, what good can come from this to the army, or to the country? http://www.btselem.org/testimonies/20020201_soldiers_testimonies_witnes

4 ) Shirlee / Australia
22/06/2012 14:02
Whoever you are no 1 you are doing something highly illegal by using another person's name. I presume no one here has done military service in a war situation. If you had you would know the stress on people and what it does to them. Ignorance is no excuse

5 ) Arnold / Canada
22/06/2012 14:40
Sad stories - BOO HOO HOO. As compared to the Palestinian Arab mobs that slaughtered Palestinian Jews in Jerusalem 1920. In Jaffa 1921. In Hebron 1929. Long before occupation. When Palestinians accept the rightful place of Israel to be allowed to exist then there will be a road to end the conflict. As long as Palestinian leadership refuses to accept , there will be more and more of these stories which OCCUR IN ALL CONFLICTS.

6 ) @ Shirlee / WB
22/06/2012 14:42
Darling you are not the only Shirlee in the world, or in Australia.

7 ) @Shirlee / UK
22/06/2012 14:56
Shirlee, it is disgraceful that Ma'an would publish a comment by another Shirley. You should totally boycott the site in protest. We'll miss you!

8 ) Carlos / USA
22/06/2012 15:24
These soldiers are brave people for speaking out about what is happening. I watch Mosaic which includes israeli TV broadcast and israeli broadcast do not report anything which does not fall into the category of "Palestinian Terrorist attacking Israel" even when it is obvious that is not what is happening. I hope these soldiers have the guts to keep it up. It wont be easy.

9 ) Mel / USA
22/06/2012 15:43
While dinosaur "Tyrannozion Rex" rules Israel,its next generation won't get chance to make Israel a free,OPEN,state,inside its pre-67 borders,as a 1st step to wider regional peace? Manic Zionism is an OBSTACLE to a mutually respectful future.Old politicians from a past era WANT their apartheid fortress! It's demented mentality!Israel's young future leaders are already PTSD'd by OLD ANGER.They should ACT! Form a futuristic political party,'United Peace',with young Arabs.Tear down walls together?

10 ) Jim / USA
22/06/2012 17:48
If you think Israel is rough, wait until the Taliban get among you.

11 ) james / usa
22/06/2012 21:19
Dear Jim do I need to remind you of the fact that the USA invaded Afghanistan?

12 ) Julie / USA
23/06/2012 00:19
@ 4 - despite your obvious profoundly vacuous mentality for the name Shirley, the fact is: it's THE SOLDIERS themselves who HAVE DONE military service in izrahell who now speak the truth. YES, it DOES put the crimes of the zionazi IOF in the limelight for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE. @ 5 - "these stories which occur in all conflicts"...yep, it's what makes the IOF blatant CRIMINALS! @ izrahell - shame on you for destroying your youth by stealing their mental health to turn them into paranoid psychos!

13 ) Maryna / South Africa
23/06/2012 03:53
Thank you everyone that dared to speak out. I think this is the only way the International world will read and beleav the truth . . . I am proud of you .

14 ) gabi / australia
23/06/2012 09:11
#13 - well said - it must have taken a hell of a lot of courage for these guys to speak out. Hope they don't suffer administrative detention. #5 - always you lot come up with "well, they did it to us - we can do it to them". If you are to go down that track, then you should list all the atrocities Jews committed against Palestinians before 1948 - then on to post 1948 state sponsored ones as well. #4 - Co-incidence - some of my best friends are called "Shirley" - and live in Australia too!!

15 ) Atere / Nigeria
23/06/2012 13:00
In fact,humanity has disappeared in d mind of some pple.Dey a doin so bcos of Allah's promise on them.

16 ) Colin / Canada
27/06/2012 09:18
I would like to thank all of those brave IDF Soldiers who had the courage to confess there crimes to the world and clear there conscience and acknowledge that what they done was wrong. I hope more of your fellow comrades will come to see that these actions are crimes, there not defending Israelis by terrorizing Palestinians and uphoding Apartied.

17 ) Maureen / Australia
27/06/2012 23:30
5) Arnold/Canada, wake up! Both Canada and Australia treated their native peoples inhumanely 1920s, and that is how Zionists were able to do the same (English colonialism) to the native people of Palestine in that same era - Israel to this day, practices the same cruel colonialism! Australian TV news - Israeli soldiers with guns drawn, going house to house during the night, waking Palestinian children, making them get out of their beds and then photographing them.
Name Country
Comment
Characters
Note: Comments will be reviewed for appropriate content. Click here for more details.

Share/Bookmark

Israel detains 5 students in Jerusalem
Businessmen visit Gaza for investment conference
Ramallah municipality seizes 400 kg of rotten peaches

Close Next Previous
All Rights Reserved © Ma'an News Agency 2005 - 2013